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Started by CrystalisRC, December 19, 2017, 05:26:20 AM

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CrystalisRC

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2017 was a prototype year for the project and we couldn't have gotten this far without your support.

As we enter 2018, we need to build a bigger, stronger community with some zero tolerance policies in effect (there are a few specific individuals on here that keep changing their name to either create drama, avoid drama or hand off information to Draconic's discord as we've had a few incidents in the past)

Input from past and future members is required because not enough demands were met in Dragon Realms 1.0 because of silenced suggestions and feedback.  Happy accidents and research are a backbone of science and investigation but we can all be spiritual and religious without going into the deep core science and math.

I personally didn't respond to a statement earlier to give myself some time to think and it's about time I started dissecting InannahEloah aka NoddyTheDragon's aka ACDragon's personal endeavour about "attacking a person, and not the statement" as most essays and dissertations should go.

http://www.arguelab.com/blog/2017/4/11/writing-a-persuasive-essay-is-like-dissecting-a-frog

http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/work_in_progress/2017/04/teaching_students_to_dissect_q.html

http://www.writingwithdesign.com/blog/2016/12/16/dissecting-questions-for-essay-writing


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Re: Discord Servers, Otherkin and general bullshittery
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2017, 01:38:21 pm »
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Quote from: CrystalisRC on November 25, 2017, 09:00:42 am
Draconity.org is a shell of it's former self, there's a history behind it...


after the moderators started power tripping (not to mention I found out Selroth really doesn't identify with kinship) a lot of kin started dividing between scientology and spiritualism...

some became furries, others just gave up "being dragon" while some of us much like Rakul, Akhor, myself and a few others want to rebuild the draconic feeling with heart and soul in mind because we knew from the internal heart being dragon is a lot of things and it's a deep, spiritual experience

You act like all that's news.  I've known about the Scientology part pretty much ever since I got involved in the Otherkin community back in 2009, and I found out from others who've been part of the Otherkin community for a lot longer than I have.  Also, Selroth's non-Kin way of thinking is no secret, he's openly said as much numerous times.  Should he be excommunicated from the Kin community because he doesn't believe he's a dragon anymore?

And why is being a furry so terrible?  Just because it's a fandom and there's lots of porn in the furry community does not automatically make it less spiritual.  Some people experience their spirituality through porn and other sexual expression.  You act as if there's only one true way to experience or express one's spirituality.  Well, as a goddess incarnate I'm here to disagree with you.  You don't think my way, I don't think Selroth's way, Selroth doesn't think your way.  That's how it is, and there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

Finally, you need to understand that even though the word "Science" is the root word in both cases, that what most of the more outspoken Dragonkin are into isn't Scientology, it's Scientism.  Scientology is a fake religion created by L. Ron Hubbard that centers around an alien "god" named Xenu.  Scientism, on the other hand, is where people think that the Scientific Method is the only means of finding out what is and isn't real, and that everything else is fake because it isn't science.  Scientism is what the most vocally "pro-science" Dragonkin are into, not Scientology.

By the way, the Dragonkin who are into Scientism are actually not pro-science.  Science is a method, but scientism treats that method like a god.  Scientism is a religion that worships science.  Science itself doesn't claim godhood or that it's worthy of worship, and in fact it never says anything about souls or spirits or anything else along those lines, because science doesn't have the necessary tools or knowledge to deal with those things. 

However, with all that said, the biggest problem in the Otherkin community as of right now is not science, scientism, scientology, the furry fandom, or spirituality, it's the whole "us vs. them" thing we've got going.  We don't all have to be the same to get along, we just have to stop trying to convert each other to our way of thinking.  Just because my way works for me doesn't mean it will automatically work for everybody else.  The same goes for your beliefs, or Selroth's beliefs, or anyone else's beliefs.  The absolute best thing anyone can do is to stop acting like anyone else who isn't exactly like us is out to get us.  You can't read my mind, I can't read Sel's mind, and I'll be goddamned if I'm going to sit here and pretend like I can.  We're just going to have to accept that people are the way they are and stop trying to make them into carbon copies of ourselves.  If we're not willing to back off and let others be what they are, then we are the problem, not them.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE ARE ABOUT

We are here to grow as a community and carry on Akhor's and Etath's vision of what they originally intended Dragon Realms to be. (see Etathism post for reference, and if still unclear...we'd been more then happy to clarify the vision and dream in simple statements.  Some of the primary natures aside from the silliness were very similar to the chinese techniques of old: If you can't sit down to have tea with your enemy, problems won't be resolved.

https://www.inspirationalstories.com/proverbs/t/chinese-on-enemy/


I might be a little unclear from stressful issues in my life, but I still know how to carry and share a vision.

50-100 spiritual dragons is a hell of a start for first year, let's see if we can grow that number in 2018.
Whether we be furry or otherkin, we be all the same

Deebles

I have to wonder if it's appropriate to have a rant about a specific member take up half of your post to commemorate a new year. I have to ask; if Noddy made a topic several paragraphs long about everything he dislikes about you, how would you want staff to address that? If we should ban anyone who enters drama with other members, where does that leave you?

NoddyTheDragon

Some things never change, I see...

Your entire post is essentially you being pissed off because someone (namely me) didn't agree with you and actually made some logical sense in their response.  The only way that people who think differently than you do are your enemies is A) they have chosen to act like your enemies, or B) you have chosen to be their enemy.  Differences of opinion, by themselves, do NOT constitute "being an enemy."  And yet you speak in terms of war, like someone who believes something that you don't want them to believe is actively trying to kill you.  Dude, it's not the same thing, not by a fucking longshot. 

I may despise the opinions of some dragons, but I'm not going to try to destroy them simply because they think differently than I do.  If they're an asshole to me, yeah, I'll fight back.  But if they simply disagree, then no, I won't, because it's a simple disagreement. 

Frankly, CrystalisRC, I find your attitude towards so-called "Scientific Otherkin" disturbing.  You're treating this like some kind of holy crusade, like the current Christianity vs. Islam thing that's been going on over the last several years.  What you and other people need to get is that when somebody else has a different belief than you do, they are not automatically choosing to try to hurt you.  "Scientific Otherkin" are NOT hurting you by existing, and yet you are acting as if they are... and by extension, you are also acting as if anybody who points out that they're not evil is also actively trying to hurt you.  You're too "if you're not 100% with me on everything I say, then you are my enemy," and that, I think, is why you have so much trouble responding to anything I say to you.  It's also why I don't like you all that much, spiritual dragonkin or not.

The worst part is, you don't seem to recognize your own problems.  I'm not the most popular person in this community and there's good reason behind that, but even I acknowledge my faults.  Why won't you acknowledge yours?